Kai Troester's initial thoughts on low O2 brewing

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Kai Troester's initial thoughts on low O2 brewing

Postby Brandon » Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:09 am

Kai Troester has chimed in about low oxygen brewing. We certainly welcome his input!

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Re: Kai Troester's initial thoughts on low O2 brewing

Postby Owenbräu » Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:33 am

Wow, we brought Kai out of hiding. That speaks volumes ;)
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Re: Kai Troester's initial thoughts on low O2 brewing

Postby wobdee » Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:45 am

Nice! hope this brings him back into the fold
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Re: Kai Troester's initial thoughts on low O2 brewing

Postby Brandon » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:03 pm

We've all said we'd love to work with Kai and greatly respect the work he's done. He's a lot of the inspiration behind our pursuits.
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Re: Kai Troester's initial thoughts on low O2 brewing

Postby mpietropaoli » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:17 pm

Interesting that he says not all styles need it...

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Re: Kai Troester's initial thoughts on low O2 brewing

Postby Techbrau » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:39 pm

Nearly all other styles are defined by examples brewed with high oxygen processes, because that's just what people have traditionally done.

That doesn't mean that every other style wouldn't be dramatically improved by a low oxygen process. Look at breweries like The Alchemist - the big thing that sets them apart from everybody else is their obsessiveness with oxygen control post-fermentation to preserve the hop flavor.
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Re: Kai Troester's initial thoughts on low O2 brewing

Postby mabrungard » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:09 pm

Good point about the likelihood that most other beers are produced with typical oxygen contact and staling. That would be part of their typical flavor. It would be an interesting experiment to bring LoDO to their production to see what if the results were favorable.
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Re: Kai Troester's initial thoughts on low O2 brewing

Postby Bryan R » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:11 pm

Well, I can say All american styles I have made.. Pale ales, IPA, wheat beers.. Taste amazing lodo.




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Re: Kai Troester's initial thoughts on low O2 brewing

Postby mpietropaoli » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:45 pm

I posted this kind of rhetorically. Bryan has said this before, and I believe it (basically just from a single sample of post boil wort that i tasted...so maybe I'm a sucker), but it basically just seems like some recipe adjustment may be necessary with beers that are typically brewed "HiDO".. Particularly if this work/brewing process changes the game on caramel malts, which as AA says, have always generally tasted like stale candy to me. If we don't rebrew a helles with our next lodo (a possibility), we may try a wit.

I personally think this may be what is setting some Vermont beers apart (but others disagree!). Simple straightforward, but flavorful malts, with bright bready flavors, a lot of juicy hop flavor (and esters, dont forget the esters!) and mild clean bitterness.

A lodo APA , with all Thomas fawcett pearl, and maybe 5-10% wheat, 3-5% carapils, may also be my smaller system pilot batch.

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