Vienna in a Helles?

[wobdee]

An email I rcvd from Hofbrau suggested they use some Munich, (10%?) in that beer.

[Weizenberg]

Definitively.

Why not try about 4-5% of Vima 8 + 8% Muma next time?

When you don't filter you need to go easy on the aromatics.

[wobdee]

I've been using vima in my latest and they are very nice. Haven't done muma but it's in the works. I was thinking 5-7% Best dark muma, I really like that malt.

[Weizenberg]

5-7 Muma 25 EBC is a bit too hefty for a Helles.

FYI - the muma I liked best is floor malted in Suffolk (GB) and comes at 12 EBC. Since it's more or less local, I can get the bags quite cheap too (£13.- 25kg)

Everyone needs to find their own. Also, beware that there is quite a range of Pima/Helles malts out there, and quite a few approaches. Unless you work with exactly the same raw materials, emulating the results becomes a tricky affair.

[wobdee]

[Weizenberg]

I have several. Depends what the mood is.

The 10 vima 3-4 c25/30 definitively makes for a nice drink! Ricardo's recipe is also not be be sneered at.