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Re: System alterations

Postby Crunk » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:54 am

My project when I return from vacation is a sourgut reactor, right now I'm taking time out to prepare for the cruise, read kunze again, and allow the 3 beers in my frig, to lager.

Been quiet in these forums for a few weeks, I guess a lot of experiments are being brewed.
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Re: System alterations

Postby Crunk » Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:24 am

Left glass lodo helles, right glass non lodo helles, both used wlp830

Left 6 weeks lagering
Right 8 weeks lagering

Neither one has been filtered yet, I am picking up 2 serving kegs tomorrow.
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Re: System alterations

Postby Crunk » Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:57 am

Here is a better angle so that the light isn't playing an optical illusion
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Re: System alterations

Postby Crunk » Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:21 pm

Here is both right after being tapped and poured for head comparison
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Re: System alterations

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Re: System alterations

Postby Crunk » Mon May 01, 2017 7:32 pm

This is kais recipe

83% pilsner weyermans
14% vienna weyermans
3% acidulated malt
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Re: System alterations

Postby Crunk » Mon May 01, 2017 7:34 pm

Here is my assessment (personal opinion)

The lighter color (lodo) the malt flavor is seems to be more freshly made bread flavor, more pleasant to the pallet. The hops is more distinct, but not as sharp tasting, it has just enough sulfur tingle to it but not over powering and no heavy sulfur aroma. It really blends nicely on the palette.

The non lodo has a more noticeable harsher sulfur bite, the hops popped out on the tongue immediately then quickly disappeared taken over by the malt flavor.

The absolute hands down biggest process that must be followed is allowing this style of beer to lager, don't rush it, don't get impatient. Lagering time is crucial because the flavor changed for the better.

I assumed after 3 days in the fermentors the sulfur aroma coming from the airlocks made me think the batches were not going to be drinkable. It was very difficult to be patient for 6 and 8 weeks to tap the kegs, which I used to spund both batches.

Finally I still have an issue to correct, it's low brewhouse efficiency it is making the beer taste lighter more like an American lager I was shooting for a Munich helles, it's in between I would estimate on a scale of 1 to 10 1 being American lager 10 being Munich helles, I would say 4.

They are both very drinkable and they won't last long around here. I concider the test a complete success, and proof in my mind that making adjustments to my system to try low oxygen brewing convinced me it was well worth it, it does take a little more time to clean everything after the day is complete as I added lids to seal the system and I added a mash agitator, so I may have added 20 minutes to my brewday, but that's a better spent 20 minutes, than sitting in front of the television in my opinion.

Any questions on my process please feel free to ask, I'll try to answer them promptly and as thoroughly detailed as possible
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Re: System alterations

Postby Crunk » Mon May 01, 2017 8:01 pm

I have 10 friends coming over for a blind taste test both of my beers and 2 store bought. I'll report the results before I leave for vacation on Sunday
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Re: System alterations

Postby Crunk » Mon May 01, 2017 8:19 pm

Lodo after filtering
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Re: System alterations

Postby Crunk » Tue May 02, 2017 6:00 pm

I'm new to brewing, only 10 batches (The first 7 have been dumped) i never brewed a day in my life till i decided to quit smoking, i knew i needed something to keep me busy. I have alot to learn but i have made a fair investment to a hobby i really enjoy.

This video shows batches 8 and 9 side by side comparison left is batch 9 (lodo) right is batch 8 ( non lodo)

Batch 9 I filtered batch 8 is not because I lost a noticeable amount of flavor, the video is taken while the beer is at 38°f

I'm convinced lodo makes a worth while difference, and I'm glad I was directed to this site early in my learning process, before any bad habits were formed.

I just had a friend do a blind taste test, he chose the LODO as the beer he preferred.

Needless to say I have 10 gallons of beer in kegs, and another 5 in a fermentor ready to transfer to a keg. They will not last long.

My final test for me was to stand my lodo up next to a whienstefaner original premium I purchased, and the flavor of my LODO is so close that I am happy and have to give my gratitude to all of you who helped guide me along the way, and all the efforts you all have made to clear the path to happiness.

Here's the link to the short 1 minute video

https://youtu.be/aXxAFEeQAM0
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