Low oxygen baseline recipes for German lagers

[wobdee]

[Roachbrau]

I did a helles with 7.5% carahell and 2.5% carared. It kind of reminded me of Spaten, which I don't particularly care for, and WAY too sweet. I've settled into the 2-4% range for caramalts in light lagers, 5-10% for darker stuff. I also add 5% carafoam to anything that doesn't have Munich or wheat in it, since low o2 causes a reduction in foam

[Techbrau]

Just my $0.02, light caramalts (eg c25 and c50) tend to come across as sweeter than darker caramalts (eg c100 and up).

7% c25 may border on too much in a helles, but 5% c25 + 2% c100 works. Make sense?

[Brody]

I've heard that before about the foam reduction, and I love a good frothy head - any thoughts on why that may be? Would cranking up the Carafoam to 10% and extending the 160f rest to 70m potentially help?

[Roachbrau]

[Owenbräu]

Ayingerz Jarhundert is the gold standard in foam, IMO. It reminds me of styrofoam. So far it's taken 10-12% carafoam or chit to get anything like that, however 5-6% carafoam will get you a standard german, thick, mousey foam.

Plus, oxidation can make some of the phenols more foam positive, like you see when you load up on whirlpool and dry hops.

[Brandon]

I dunno about Carared in a Helles, but 90/7/3 Pils/Carared/Caramunich 2 or 3 might make a nice Pilsner base. I might try something along those lines soon.

I'm drinking a beer with like 13% Carared right now and it's really malty delicious.

[Techbrau]

It would be good to get some baseline recipes up for Weizen, Kolsch, Alt, Maibock, and Doppelbock too. None of those are really my expertise.

As far as festbier goes, I don't have a good idea yet. I think it's somewhere in between helles and marzen.

[caedus]

For festbier I would think something like 85% Pils, 10% Munich, 5% Carafoam, 5% Caramunich I.

Light in color (just a tinge of gold from the munich) and with lodo the Munich and Cmunich will really shine without being "big" flavors.

[Bryan R]

I don't taste hard pretzel(munich) in the examples I like. I would say pils, vima, and cara, 13.5p gravity.