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Re: RE: Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby homoeccentricus » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:57 pm

lindh wrote:I have the Milwaukee mw600 and doing tests. Not reached any final conclusions yet but the Braumeister is definatly able to brew lodo.

I assume with wort level above the malt pipe?
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Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby wobdee » Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:13 pm

bjanat wrote:One trick is to do a no sparge, then drain into a separate boil kettle. Avoids the dripping while lifting the malt pipe.


That's something I've been looking into lately. Do you lift the malt pipe just enough to break the seal or do you just loosen the center rod nut? I guess towards the end of the transfer you need to tip the BM to get all the wort out unless you modifed a lower exit point? It sure is nice though being able to brew in one vessel verses two.
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Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby lindh » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:01 am

If you rise the malt pipe to a level where no oxygen is sucked under, the wort will drain from the pipe without oxygen getting in. It will actually be kind of sucked down.
Working on new methods and tweaks every brew but I brew to seldom to have been able to reach any conclusion yet.
Overflow and no sparge (most of the times). Floating mashcap from a plastic fermenter bucket (perfect fit).
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Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby wobdee » Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:16 am

lindh wrote:If you rise the malt pipe to a level where no oxygen is sucked under, the wort will drain from the pipe without oxygen getting in. It will actually be kind of sucked down.


Yep, I use a pully system and lift it a little bit at a time until I get that suction then I let it sit there for about 10 min. After that I remove the malt pipe and place it in a large bowl to drain until I reach boil then add the remaining wort.

Sometimes when I lift that malt pipe that suction let's go and I get that big GULP as the pressure is realeased which makes me cringe. I wonder if you could relieve that pressure by poking holes or slicing through the grain bed with a knife or spoon?
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Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby Weizenberg » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:55 pm

It may not be optimal, but it may not do as much damage as you think. It takes quite a bit of time and diffusion in order to mix oxygen into wort. You may only damage a negligible part slightly. This may not be enough to be perceptible.

The fact that you've been very happy with your results speaks for itself.

Otherwise, when in doubt: measure.
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Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby homoeccentricus » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:12 am

I have been brewing with the 10L malt pipe in the 20L BM. I don't seem to have that suction effect there. Question: in order to have the wort level above the 10L pipe I need to add around 19L of water. What would be the typical amount needed for a brew with the 20L pipe?
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Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby dr jacoby » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:08 am

You need 36 litres to completely cover the bar and locking nut (that's on the assumption that you replace the wingnut with an ordinary flat nut). If you're just looking to cover the maltpipe, you'll need 31 litres.
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Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby homoeccentricus » Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:43 am

Ok, that's simply double. But unfortunately the final volume won't fit in a keg.
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Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby wobdee » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:48 am

lindh wrote:I have the Milwaukee mw600 and doing tests. Not reached any final conclusions yet but the Braumeister is definatly able to brew lodo.


Any updates on the use of your mw600?
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Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby Weizenberg » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:21 pm

homoeccentricus wrote:I have been brewing with the 10L malt pipe in the 20L BM. I don't seem to have that suction effect there. Question: in order to have the wort level above the 10L pipe I need to add around 19L of water. What would be the typical amount needed for a brew with the 20L pipe?


The Braumeister ist not HERMS like many homebrewers build it. It's a slightly different design where the heating coil is outside the malt pipe but inside the same vessel. It's actually beautifully engineered. It doesn't have any of the issues I have with the 'classic' HERMS design.

Either way, it's not a Biggie for me going back to a fully agitated system with cap.

BTW, what is your brewhouse efficiency with the BM?
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