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lindh
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Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby lindh » Tue Aug 09, 2016 3:10 am

wobdee wrote:I've read about keeping the wort level over the malt pipe over on the BM forum and it think that is a good option. The only other thing I can think of is lifting the malt pipe slowly little by little to keep the splashing down then place the malt pipe in a bucket to let it drain further then add that wort back to the boil where there is no O2. I don't sparge as well.


That's exactly how I do it. These are my notes and thoughts so far about doing LoDO with the BM:

Fill the BM from bottom up, either with a long hose or via a draining valve like me.
Boil the total water volume and chill (no copper).
Add SMB
Crush the premoistered grains gently with as large husks as possible.
Mash in with as little stirring as possible.
Fill water over the mash pipe.
Add mash cap if you have one (I havn't made one yet).
Do a hoch kurz program as short as possible.
Lift the pipe slowly and avoid sucking the grainbed down with the vaccuum that occurs.
Boil gently and maximum 60m (even with extra pale pilsnermalt).
Chill the wort as quickly as possible, no stirring and no pumps activated.
Transfer the wort thru a hose to bottom of fermenter and add yeast before oxygenating the wort.
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Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby homoeccentricus » Tue Aug 09, 2016 6:00 am

OK, that's clear. Only one thing: "Fill water over the mash pipe." Do you first boil all the water in the BM, then remove some, then mash in and then re-add the water, so that the water level is higher than the mash pipe?
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Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby homoeccentricus » Tue Aug 09, 2016 6:09 am

Oh, and any ideas on a mash cap?
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Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby wobdee » Tue Aug 09, 2016 7:18 am

Hmm, I use the pump to chill otherwise it takes forever. It doesn't splash any but maybe that rolling turbility can suck in some O2? I don't have a meter so not sure.

A mash cap is a tough one for the BM, my glass lid from Lodge seems to work well and let's me see what's going on. The original lid has the vents and a loose fit so it's probably not ideal.

My feeling is the 100mg/l dose of smb gives my system adaquet protection and maybe a little insurance for a not so tight system. I started out with 75mg/l and the "IT" factor was there but seemed to fade after a week or so. My last 8 batches or so have all been great to the last drop.
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Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby lindh » Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:23 am

Yes I mash in with 55l and then add about 5-7l to cover the maltpipe. With 5l the temperature rise will do the final covering since volume is dependant on temperature. Just like this photo from my blog: Image

I have the dome which is very tight fit with the rubber seal and with my cap on top it can sometimes get almost vaccume in there but a floating mash cap would be nice. Maybe styrofoam with plastic around it. I have to think a bit more about different options.
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Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby wobdee » Tue Aug 09, 2016 2:54 pm

Lindh,
How long does it take you to chill down to lager pitching temps without using the pump or stirring? I may try this next time, usually takes me 15-20 min with my cold well water and pump but then I usually let it sit for another 30 min to settle before transferring to primary. Now I'm wondering if it would come down on its own without the pump in the same overall timeframe and maybe get a more compact trub in the bottom of my kettle. Nice blog by the way, I've been skimming through it today.
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Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby lindh » Tue Aug 09, 2016 3:45 pm

With pumps and chilling in autumn, winter or spring I can tonit in 15 min to 20c but to lager temp takes a fair bit longer. Lately I've been doing 20-9c in the fridge but that's not very "lodo-esk". How to chill quickly to lager temp, I don't know yet. Flad you lile the blog!
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Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby homoeccentricus » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:59 am

Any other Braumeister owners here who would be willing to share their lodo tweaks and tricks? The good Dr Jacoby just posted this, and I'm going to order one myself: viewtopic.php?f=15&p=8275#p8275

Has anyone measured dissolved oxygen in the Braumeister?
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Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby lindh » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:16 pm

I have the Milwaukee mw600 and doing tests. Not reached any final conclusions yet but the Braumeister is definatly able to brew lodo.
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Re: Speidel Braumeister

Postby bjanat » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:18 pm

One trick is to do a no sparge, then drain into a separate boil kettle. Avoids the dripping while lifting the malt pipe.

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