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NHC 2016 Oxidation talk

Postby lupulus » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:09 pm

Hallo zusammen.
Cheers from NHC.
I encourage you to listen to the oxidation talk once posted at AHA website. Nothing new but the presenter prepared well and the audience received it well. The forum and LODO /HSO were mentioned in a good light.

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Re: NHC 2016 Oxidation talk

Postby Brandon » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:03 pm

lupulus wrote:Hallo zusammen.
Cheers from NHC.
I encourage you to listen to the oxidation talk once posted at AHA website. Nothing new but the presenter prepared well and the audience received it well. The forum and LODO /HSO were mentioned in a good light.

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Cool! Can't wait to hear it.
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Re: NHC 2016 Oxidation talk

Postby Bryan R » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:50 pm

Wierd, no torches and pitchforks!?! Or is that just Internet personalities? :lol:
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Re: NHC 2016 Oxidation talk

Postby lupulus » Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:24 am

Just Internet personalities. There is quite a bit of buzz and many want to try the method.

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Re: NHC 2016 Oxidation talk

Postby Brandon » Sat Jun 11, 2016 4:51 pm

lupulus wrote:Just Internet personalities. There is quite a bit of buzz and many want to try the method.

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What would you say were the most interesting/novel/useful topics this year? I've seen some slide photos go by of many familiar topics, so I can't get a good read on new trends and ideas.
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Re: NHC 2016 Oxidation talk

Postby lupulus » Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:04 pm

Sorry I took a while to respond.
I was quite disappointed with the talks. Reinheitsgebot bashing during the keynote combined with no positive comments about it given the 500 anniversary did not help my mood. I do not follow it personally but it lasted 500 years because it improved quality and this is the message we need to celebrate.

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Re: NHC 2016 Oxidation talk

Postby Brandon » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:14 pm

lupulus wrote:Sorry I took a while to respond.
I was quite disappointed with the talks. Reinheitsgebot bashing during the keynote combined with no positive comments about it given the 500 anniversary did not help my mood. I do not follow it personally but it lasted 500 years because it improved quality and this is the message we need to celebrate.

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That's a bummer. Well, it's also an opportunity. I strive to reproduce the beers I drink in Germany, and while those styles also continue to evolve with technology, market trends and economics, we can strive to learn more about how to create and preserve them.

I find the flavor perception differences among folks to be endlessly fascinating. Folks seem to either know what we are talking about or completely don't (or don't care). For those who do, I'm glad we are all finding each other.

The funny thing about the Reinheitsgebot, at least for me, is that at first I thought...ok, how hard can this be, it's pretty clear to use 4 ingredients, there should be no surprises. But it's not about the tool, it's how you use it.
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Re: NHC 2016 Oxidation talk

Postby Bryan R » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:08 pm

Right, the people who knock it need all sorts of ingredients to mask the oxidation flavors. 8-)
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NHC 2016 Oxidation talk

Postby mchrispen » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:44 pm

I sat in the "Chemistry of Mashing"? Morning session by Dr. Roger Barth. He is a chemist that teaches beer chemistry as an intro to chemistry. Talked to him a bit, and bought his book. He hadn't heard of the paper, but was interested in the concept. Scanning his book... It's pretty solid. Low o2 concepts, and other topics on beer stabilization that break down the reactions.

Besides, he is a classic cartoon prof. Really fun to talk too, and an accomplished old school homebrewer.

The book is "the Chemistry of Beer, the Science in the Suds" - it's the text for his course.
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Re: NHC 2016 Oxidation talk

Postby Brandon » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:53 pm

mchrispen wrote:I sat in the "Chemistry of Mashing"? Morning session by Dr. Roger Barth. He is a chemist that teaches beer chemistry as an intro to chemistry. Talked to him a bit, and bought his book. He hadn't heard of the paper, but was interested in the concept. Scanning his book... It's pretty solid. Low o2 concepts, and other topics on beer stabilization that break down the reactions.

Besides, he is a classic cartoon prof. Really fun to talk too, and an accomplished old school homebrewer.

The book is "the Chemistry of Beer, the Science in the Suds" - it's the text for his course.


I saw his name on the AHA website for the convention. I live in the same town as the university where he teaches, so I may go track him down. Small world!

What do you think his book offers that Kunze and Narziss don't? I might pick up a copy.

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