Pale Malt Blends

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Pale Malt Blends

Postby Natebriscoe » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:02 am

What is everyone's favorite Pale Malt Blend? I have been playing around with best pilsner and golden promise, hopefully the golden promise isn't to strong for a pilsner.
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Re: Pale Malt Blends

Postby Techbrau » Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:29 pm

90% pils, 10% Vienna. I like Best Malz.
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Re: Pale Malt Blends

Postby caedus » Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:14 pm

Has anyone tried Shills Kolsch Malt? Its touch darker than pilsner, more like 3.5-4 EBC if I recall.

Seems like it'd be a great base for helles.
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Re: Pale Malt Blends

Postby Techbrau » Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:24 pm

I think kolsch malt is more like 3.5-4.5 SRM, not EBC.

I think it would be fine for blending into Pilsner malt. Any base malt in the 5-9 EBC range (Vienna, kolsch, pale ale, etc) is worth exploring as an adjuster malt. Heck, try Munich malt and see if it works in your recipe. Most Pilsner malt I see nowadays is very pale (3.0-3.3 EBC) and I think that adjusting it upwards to 3.8-4.0 EBC or thereabouts is a good thing flavor-wise. Of course you could adjust it to be lighter or even darker than that, it's all personal taste.

You can make a good rendition of pretty much any pale lager style with a base malt blend around 3.8 EBC + a splash of caramel malt (1-5%, typically 2-3%, the color is your preference). Of course, that doesn't mean that your base malt needs to be at 3.8 EBC or that you need to use caramel malt at all to make a beer you like. It's just an anchor point.
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Re: RE: Re: Pale Malt Blends

Postby Natebriscoe » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:46 pm

Techbrau wrote:90% pils, 10% Vienna. I like Best Malz.

Do you use this blend for many things? Or just helles?
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Re: Pale Malt Blends

Postby Techbrau » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:57 pm

I've done helles, kolsch, and pils with it with good results. I've tried varying the amount of vienna between 10% and 20% and I think 10% is about right if you're going to layer another malt on - but it also depends on how dark/flavorful your pilsner malt is (Best > Weyermann > Avangard, Swaen, Castle IMO). I've also used carahell, carared, and caramunich in combination with that base malt blend and enjoyed the beer a lot.

There are a heck of a lot of ways to hit 4 SRM beer with all of the different malts we have at our disposal, especially LODO, and none of them are "wrong". YMMV, find what works for you personally, etc ;)
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Re: Pale Malt Blends

Postby Bryan R » Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:44 am

I use weyermann pale ale malt to tweak my grist. For the longest time my barke has been 1.7l, but my newest sack is 2l, so I will probably leave it as is.
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Re: Pale Malt Blends

Postby Brody » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:02 am

I did a Helles with Weyerman Pale Ale (appreciate the advice Bryan) and Weyerman Pils along with 6% Carahell and was very happy. Speaking of which... this was the first Helles that I actually let lager long enough before drinking it and my god was it an improvement. I kind of like that bit of sulphur tank taste but after a month + at freezing it was super clear, clean, and amazing. Kicked the keg in a night during the Superbowl. Planning on rebrewing with the trifecta and maybe toning down the Carahell a percent or 2.

Have another one lagering now that I made with what was available at the closer LHBS. So that's Avanguard Pils and Simpsons Golden Promise. I'll see how that turns out.
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Re: Pale Malt Blends

Postby Big Monk » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:11 am

I'm going to be using 60/30/10 Pils/Pale/Vienna in my upcoming Pale Belgians.


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Re: Pale Malt Blends

Postby Ancient Abbey » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:33 am

Natebriscoe wrote:What is everyone's favorite Pale Malt Blend?

This is a bit of a loaded and dependent question. Not all grists need blending if the base malt is to spec for the style you are brewing. Some styles need high kilned malts, some need low kilned malts for proper flavors. For a bavarian pils, you need pima+vima unless you can source 3.8 EBC pima.
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