Keg options

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Keg options

Postby Brandon » Wed May 25, 2016 10:36 pm

Tech mentioned today/recently about Sanke kegs. Is there any reason not to buy a bunch of kegs and parts and switch?

Or would it be better to source and use European styles kegs? Are they readily available in the US?


But, something like this (examples) and replace all my ball lock kegs:

Kegs
http://www.beveragefactory.com/draftbee ... e_keg.html

plus some 7.5 gallon for fermentation
http://www.beveragefactory.com/draftbee ... -DDI.shtml

Valve removal tool
http://www.beveragefactory.com/draftbee ... press.html

Ring removal knife
http://www.beveragefactory.com/draftbee ... knife.html

A bunch of taps
https://www.morebeer.com/products/tapri ... style.html

Tail piece, nuts and gaskets
https://www.morebeer.com/products/14-ta ... asket.html
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Re: Keg options

Postby caedus » Thu May 26, 2016 2:05 am

I have been thinking about this all day.

7.75 gallon keg for fermenting, the orange carboy caps can fit right on top, or I have heard that they can accept half of a 2" triclamp fitting. So I could silver solder some tubes for an airlock/gas-in and then liquid out to transfer on a triclamp plate.

Attach a sanke tap with the check valve removed and boom, close transfers for cheap.

I am split between this and a 6 gallon corny for fermentation.
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Re: Keg options

Postby bensonledbetter » Thu May 26, 2016 7:19 am

Can someone enlighten me, what would be the reason for the switch?
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Re: Keg options

Postby Brandon » Thu May 26, 2016 7:32 am

caedus wrote:I have been thinking about this all day.

7.75 gallon keg for fermenting, the orange carboy caps can fit right on top, or I have heard that they can accept half of a 2" triclamp fitting. So I could silver solder some tubes for an airlock/gas-in and then liquid out to transfer on a triclamp plate.

Attach a sanke tap with the check valve removed and boom, close transfers for cheap.

I am split between this and a 6 gallon corny for fermentation.


I am using a 6.5g keg now for fermentation and it is working very well, I highly recommend it... However, for downstream conditioning and storage, I am fed up with corny kegs. Yeah, they work, not a huge deal, but man, poppets and all the fittings just piss me off. Plus I could very easily switch to 7.5 gallon batch sizes and get [fewer] larger kegs.

For me, the benefits include reduced head space (per Techbrau - I think it might be from a post on HBT?) and just a more solid fitting design. Corny kegs are not ideal.

Are Sanke kegs actually hard to maintain? I read about difficulty in getting the ring off to get the spear out, but it seems like with the right tool it would be trivial. Then with cleaning, why would it be any different than cleaning a corny?

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Re: Keg options

Postby Brody » Thu May 26, 2016 10:01 am

Don't you need some sort of cleaning device? Would probably loose the ability to get your arm in there and scrub it out when needed.
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Re: Keg options

Postby Kit_B » Thu May 26, 2016 11:02 am

I can't get my arm in a corny keg.
I recently built a keg & carboy cleaner that I freaking LOVE!!!
I'll have to make a post about it, when I get home.
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Re: Keg options

Postby Brandon » Thu May 26, 2016 11:44 am

Kit_B wrote:I can't get my arm in a corny keg.
I recently built a keg & carboy cleaner that I freaking LOVE!!!
I'll have to make a post about it, when I get home.


Please do Kit, I'm thinking about making one.

Yeah, I have put my arm in a keg maybe once in 7 years and my 13-14 kegs.
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Re: Keg options

Postby Weizenberg » Sun May 29, 2016 4:38 am

The 20l kegs are quite a bit wider than cornys. So if yours fit neatly in the freezer then you may only be able to accommodate much less.

Sankey is actually not a keg. It's a spear and fitting type (S-Type) they are quite popular in the UK for eg but harder to keep clean. In Germany the flat fitting (A-Type) spears are more popular since easier to maintain and remove.

I hate corny kegs with a passion. I never really warmed to that whole dispense system with these awful thread sizes. But they are very slim and for nearly into standard freezers.

Kegs are easier to flush and purge fro O2 though (more advantageous shape) but I am not sure I've exhausted all the options for purging O2 from corneys for dispense just yet.

I would think very hard re-fitting my containers before committing to this expense.
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Re: Keg options

Postby Brandon » Sun May 29, 2016 5:38 am

Weizenberg wrote:The 20l kegs are quite a bit wider than cornys. So if yours fit neatly in the freezer then you may only be able to accommodate much less.

Sankey is actually not a keg. It's a spear and fitting type (S-Type) they are quite popular in the UK for eg but harder to keep clean. In Germany the flat fitting (A-Type) spears are more popular since easier to maintain and remove.

I hate corny kegs with a passion. I never really warmed to that whole dispense system with these awful thread sizes. But they are very slim and for nearly into standard freezers.

Kegs are easier to flush and purge fro O2 though (more advantageous shape) but I am not sure I've exhausted all the options for purging O2 from corneys for dispense just yet.

I would think very hard re-fitting my containers before committing to this expense.


I thought the form factor was similar...at least with any sixtels I've bought of commercial beer.

http://www.beveragefactory.com/draftbee ... e_keg.html

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