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Hofbrau House

Postby mpietropaoli » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:06 am

In the melee of discussion following the release of the paper, the topic of Hofbrau was brought up along the way by a O2-denier. Essentially saying that the stateside operations (Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Vegas, etc.) are not equipped to brew in a low-O2 environment, so how could they possibly be producing traditional German beers on such a small scale. Anyone have any insight?

I ask because I was recently at the one in Cleveland and my goodness was the helles fantastic...
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Re: Hofbrau House

Postby Kit_B » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:02 pm

mpietropaoli wrote:In the melee of discussion following the release of the paper, the topic of Hofbrau was brought up along the way by a O2-denier. Essentially saying that the stateside operations (Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Vegas, etc.) are not equipped to brew in a low-O2 environment, so how could they possibly be producing traditional German beers on such a small scale. Anyone have any insight?

I ask because I was recently at the one in Cleveland and my goodness was the helles fantastic...


How does anyone know that they aren't equipped for lodo?
If they use membrane degassing & lockdown their processes to limit O2 uptake, it wouldn't really be evident, to onlookers.
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Re: Hofbrau House

Postby Bilsch » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:53 pm

I don't know about Pittsburgh or Cleveland but the Vegas Hofbrau has it's beer shipped in. I talked to the manager the first time I went there 5 years back and he said they bring it in refer containers from a contract brewery in Bavaria. Was there again less then a year ago and the beer was the same fantastic.
On a similar note.. I was at the Paulaner Bräuhaus Singapore 6 months ago, who does brew onsite, and it was absolutely horrible worse then microbrew beer crap. Tried the helles and hefe and spit them back in the glass and left it sitting on the bar. I inquired if they had anything, even in bottles, that was actually made in Germany.. to which said they do not serve anything that isn't brewed onsite. It's quite depressing when your taste buds are fooled by your eyes and ears into believing whats coming and then that swill hits your palate. :evil:

Jumped in a cab and went 11 clicks SW to a place called Brotzeit who had the proper stuff imported by the keg and in very good shape. Happy again.
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Re: Hofbrau House

Postby Brody » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:18 pm

Bilsch wrote:I don't know about Pittsburgh or Cleveland but the Vegas Hofbrau has it's beer shipped in. I talked to the manager the first time I went there 5 years back and he said they bring it in refer containers from a contract brewery in Bavaria. Was there again less then a year ago and the beer was the same fantastic.
On a similar note.. I was at the Paulaner Bräuhaus Singapore 6 months ago, who does brew onsite, and it was absolutely horrible worse then microbrew beer crap. Tried the helles and hefe and spit them back in the glass and left it sitting on the bar. I inquired if they had anything, even in bottles, that was actually made in Germany.. to which said they do not serve anything that isn't brewed onsite. It's quite depressing when your taste buds are fooled by your eyes and ears into believing whats coming and then that swill hits your palate. :evil:

Jumped in a cab and went 11 clicks SW to a place called Brotzeit who had the proper stuff imported by the keg and in very good shape. Happy again.


Pittsburgh brews in house
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Re: Hofbrau House

Postby Techbrau » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:36 pm

Bilsch wrote:I don't know about Pittsburgh or Cleveland but the Vegas Hofbrau has it's beer shipped in. I talked to the manager the first time I went there 5 years back and he said they bring it in refer containers from a contract brewery in Bavaria. Was there again less then a year ago and the beer was the same fantastic.
On a similar note.. I was at the Paulaner Bräuhaus Singapore 6 months ago, who does brew onsite, and it was absolutely horrible worse then microbrew beer crap. Tried the helles and hefe and spit them back in the glass and left it sitting on the bar. I inquired if they had anything, even in bottles, that was actually made in Germany.. to which said they do not serve anything that isn't brewed onsite. It's quite depressing when your taste buds are fooled by your eyes and ears into believing whats coming and then that swill hits your palate. :evil:

Jumped in a cab and went 11 clicks SW to a place called Brotzeit who had the proper stuff imported by the keg and in very good shape. Happy again.


I've been to that very same Paulaner Brauhaus in Singapore and had the same experience. Mind boggling that it's what, 16 Singapore dollars for a half liter?

You're better off at a hawker center where you can get a plate of chicken rice and a 640 ml bottle of Tiger (not a bad beer, really) for under 6 dollars.
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Re: Hofbrau House

Postby Bilsch » Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:18 pm

Brody wrote: Pittsburgh brews in house


Good to know so I don't bother going there.

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