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Ayinger date codes?

Postby caedus » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:49 pm

Inspired by the Aying post, I realized that the local bottle shops have a ton of Ayinger beer but not a whole lot of other brands.

The issue is that here in California its hard to find anything fresh, lucky to get something 6 months old, really.

So that brings me to my point: Does anyone know the dating convention on the bottles? They don't post julian or standard dates, no codes. But they do notch the label on the bottom for dating purposes and I have not been able to find any sources on how to translate those into freshness.

Any ideas? I might try emailing them tonight.
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Re: Ayinger date codes?

Postby Weizenberg » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:23 pm

The industry standard for packaging is 9 months. Although many are aiming for 12 months nowadays.

Assume 12
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Ayinger date codes?

Postby Big Monk » Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:39 pm

Weizenberg wrote:The industry standard for packaging is 9 months. Although many are aiming for 12 months nowadays.

Assume 12


That says nothing about date codes though.

Assuming a shelf life says nothing about the age of the beer. I'm not sure how it's done across the pond, but beer distributors over here aren't exactly pulling old stock when the brewery's freshness window has expired!
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Re: Ayinger date codes?

Postby caedus » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:43 pm

Last year I found a 2012 six pack of Hacker Pschorr. They wanted full price.

I am still seeing drink by Jan. Pilsner Urquell here, too. So that beer was probably brewed a year ago.
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Re: Ayinger date codes?

Postby Weizenberg » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:21 am

Big Monk wrote:
Weizenberg wrote:The industry standard for packaging is 9 months. Although many are aiming for 12 months nowadays.

Assume 12


That says nothing about date codes though.


Which part is the challenging bit to understand? Our bottles have a date on it, that's the expiry date. All food products need to show this in the EU.

Once past that date it's not supposed to be sold any longer.

The date it was brewed was a year or nine months before the expiry date.

So, what doesn't it say?

Note:. The date is in European format, DD-MM-YY
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Re: Ayinger date codes?

Postby Big Monk » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:02 am

Weizenberg wrote:
Big Monk wrote:
Weizenberg wrote:The industry standard for packaging is 9 months. Although many are aiming for 12 months nowadays.

Assume 12


That says nothing about date codes though.


Which part is the challenging bit to understand? Our bottles have a date on it, that's the expiry date. All food products need to show this in the EU.

Once past that date it's not supposed to be sold any longer.

The date it was brewed was a year or nine months before the expiry date.

So, what doesn't it say?

Note:. The date is in European format, DD-MM-YY


There is nothing challenging about it at all. OP stated there is no date code on the export bottles that make it here to the states. So your post about duration of freshness set by the brewery doesn't apply to us here in the US.

Ultimately, distribution here in the states is a crapshoot. Some major city centers in our country with large beer stores likely get fresher examples and unless you have a good source you're probably drinking 4-6 month old examples that have been handled poorly along the way.

Brewing your own or going straight to the source (or living in Europe) is likely the most consistent way to get fresher examples.
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Re: Ayinger date codes?

Postby Weizenberg » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:28 am

Big Monk wrote:
Weizenberg wrote:
Big Monk wrote:
That says nothing about date codes though.


Which part is the challenging bit to understand? Our bottles have a date on it, that's the expiry date. All food products need to show this in the EU.

Once past that date it's not supposed to be sold any longer.

The date it was brewed was a year or nine months before the expiry date.

So, what doesn't it say?

Note:. The date is in European format, DD-MM-YY


There is nothing challenging about it at all. OP stated there is no date code on the export bottles that make it here to the states. So your post about duration of freshness set by the brewery doesn't apply to us here in the US.

Ultimately, distribution here in the states is a crapshoot. Some major city centers in our country with large beer stores likely get fresher examples and unless you have a good source you're probably drinking 4-6 month old examples that have been handled poorly along the way.

Brewing your own or going straight to the source (or living in Europe) is likely the most consistent way to get fresher examples.


Specially packaged? Now there is a surprise. AFAIR the HB and Spaten stuff I had when in the US was dated. Maybe the Inselkammers doesn't bother when exporting? Naughty boys!
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Re: Ayinger date codes?

Postby Big Monk » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:32 am

Weizenberg wrote:
Big Monk wrote:
Weizenberg wrote:
Which part is the challenging bit to understand? Our bottles have a date on it, that's the expiry date. All food products need to show this in the EU.

Once past that date it's not supposed to be sold any longer.

The date it was brewed was a year or nine months before the expiry date.

So, what doesn't it say?

Note:. The date is in European format, DD-MM-YY


There is nothing challenging about it at all. OP stated there is no date code on the export bottles that make it here to the states. So your post about duration of freshness set by the brewery doesn't apply to us here in the US.

Ultimately, distribution here in the states is a crapshoot. Some major city centers in our country with large beer stores likely get fresher examples and unless you have a good source you're probably drinking 4-6 month old examples that have been handled poorly along the way.

Brewing your own or going straight to the source (or living in Europe) is likely the most consistent way to get fresher examples.


Specially packaged? Now there is a surprise. AFAIR the HB and Spaten stuff I had when in the US was dated. Maybe the Inselkammers doesn't bother when exporting? Naughty boys!


Yup it's odd. All the others are explicitly stated or easily sussed out.
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Re: Ayinger date codes?

Postby Ancient Abbey » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:11 am

Date codes aren't everything, just end caps. I bought a Weihestephaner Pilsner that was only a month old but reeked of mercaptans. Clearly improperly stored warm and in the light. Sigh...
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Re: Ayinger date codes?

Postby Brody » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:46 pm

I try not to buy any bottles anymore since they don't seem to ship well. But thankfully I can find a decent bit of good kegged beers around. Between Frankford Hall and the Brauhaus Schmitz I've had nice access to kegged Helles. WO, Hofbrau and Spaten easy enough at least.

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